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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan, yes.

I will construct these boards in quantity and sell them for $20. I've already ordered and receives some parts and I have 150 bare PBCs being manufactured for me right now. I should be receiving those late next week. I've used the small-pcb design that Stefan laid out, because I feel that the smaller version should be able to fit in almost any standard servo case. If anyone wants to buy just the bare boards, I will sell them for $2 a piece. I can sell the bareboards as soon as I receive them, but it will take me a week or two to finish production on the open servo boards. I expect to be able to sell the assembled, flashed, and tested boards by November. Like I said, I will keep the forum posted as I progress. I've already committed myself financially to the project, so I hope that you guys will buy enough from me to have made it worth my while. Very Happy No matter what happens though, this will be a learning experience for me, so I am honored to do this.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look forward to seeing a picture of one of those. Keep us updated. if you run into anything while building these, feel free to drop me a note. I am sure I have seen just about every error/problem during my use of OpenServo.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry, did you ever come up with a cheaper way to flash the boards other than the STK200?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, four resistors! Check this out Smile

http://www.openservo.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=99&highlight=stk200

specifically

http://elm-chan.org/works/avrx/stk200.png

as noted, both work well. In fact, I don't even bother with my buffered version, I just use the el-cheapo 4 resistors (also I have found the values don't really matter all that much either)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay, that's awesome!

I'll send extra for a six-pack or what not Smile Keep us updated!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I jusr received my bare PCBs yesterday, and they look awesome. I paid extra for electrical testing, so they are guaranteed to have a less than 2% failure rate. I made a post in the hardware forum for anyone interested in buying the bare PCB from me for $2.

I ordered the stencil and solder paste a few days ago, I should have them by mid next week. I have already received the MCUs, MOSFETS, Current Sensors, Tantalum Capacitors, and 1/2W resistors. All I need are the small cheap resistors and capacitors, then I can start trying to reflow these boards. Although Barry doesn't recommend reflowing to people trying to do small quantities, I think it'll be perfect for what I am trying to do.

By sheer coincidence, I happen to have a Parallel cable with all of its internal wires stripped and labeled. Making a Programmer for the boards should be extremely easy using 4 resistors and my breadboard. Although, I am unsure from Barry's drawing which pins from the parallel port connect to what pads on the openservo2 board. Also, the resistors in the drawing don't have units on them, so I don't know if those values are in KOhms, or just plain Ohms. Either way, it's just a minor detail. I'll continue to keep you guys updated and I'll make a post when the assembled boards are complete.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, good work with the boards.

I hope the reflow works OK for you, I will be interested to see hoe that goes.

RE: the resistors on schematic
they are 330 ohm and 100ohm

The wiring of the OpenServo is as follows:
PCB Top (left to right)

SDA | +7V | GND | SCL/SCK

PCB Bot (looking from bottom. L to R)
+5V | RESET | MISO | MOSI

EDIT: Quickly Drafted this
http://www.openservo.com/moin.cgi/OpenServoPinout

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay,

Any interest in making a complete servo for an extra fee? I'd be happy to just get something completely finished!

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan,

Building and selling complete OpenServos is my next goal, after finishing the boards. In fact, I've already done quite a bit of looking into this. My ultimate goal is to be able to produce a Robo-One style bi-ped sold for under $300, using the robustness of the OpenServo. I'm still negotiating with hardware suppliers, but I think I can have a prototype completed by spring, and a small production run by summer.

It's going to be challenging to come up with the capital for the protos. Unfortunately, I am just a college drop-out, with only the business skills I've picked up on-the-fly while trying to negotiate for Robo-One parts. If there are any people with more business experience than me following this thread, contact me if you have any advice at robotjay@gmail.com.

In the mean time, I'll just take one step at a time to assemble the OSv2 boards. This'll allow anyone in the community to use their own hardware to fit their own needs.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"robotjay" wrote:
Dan,

Building and selling complete OpenServos is my next goal, after finishing the boards. In fact, I've already done quite a bit of looking into this. My ultimate goal is to be able to produce a Robo-One style bi-ped sold for under $300, using the robustness of the OpenServo. I'm still negotiating with hardware suppliers, but I think I can have a prototype completed by spring, and a small production run by summer.


I am very interested in getting some assembled Open Servo boards. I am starting construction of a new robot next month (my second one) and would really like to use Open Servos all the way through it. This robot will require a total of 40 servos to operate when it is complete, and will be quite unique.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am very interested in getting some assembled Open Servo boards. I am starting construction of a new robot next month (my second one) and would really like to use Open Servos all the way through it. This robot will require a total of 40 servos to operate when it is complete, and will be quite unique.


First of all, I will happily build any amount of boards you want. I am glad to be able to allow the community access to the boards, without requiring them to have expert soldering skills. Very Happy

Second of all... 40 servos!?! Good God! Shocked I'm very curious to see what you have in mind. You should post your idea in the robotics part of the forum, if you aren't trying to keep it too much of a secret... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"robotjay" wrote:
First of all, I will happily build any amount of boards you want. I am glad to be able to allow the community access to the boards, without requiring them to have expert soldering skills. Very Happy


This would work very well for me! I have done electronic assembly, including a lot of touchup and prototype stuff, but that was many years ago. I could do it again if I gathered the proper tools, but there is no way I want to do anything with surface mount stuff.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I could do it again if I gathered the proper tools, but there is no way I want to do anything with surface mount stuff.


Me either. That's why I've invested a lot of money in the reflow equipment just for this project. Barry, Mike, and all the other people that have soldered these parts by hand must have that steadiest hands in the world, and the patience of saints. I think I would rather stab myself in the face with my soldering iron than actually solder every SMT part by hand.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think I would rather stab myself in the face with my soldering iron that actually solder every SMT part by hand.


You made my day with that!

As you correctly guessed, I have the patience of a saint.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Me either. That's why I've invested a lot of money in the reflow equipment just for this project. Barry, Mike, and all the other people that have soldered these parts by hand must have that steadiest hands in the world, and the patience of saints.


I just went through an unpleasat experience trying to build up a Propeller controller board, and I am not doing that again. I'll pay somebody to build it for me before I endure that kind of frustration again.

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